Showing posts with label Maltese. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Maltese. Show all posts

Maltese Genesis rewritten as Arabic

Monday, December 10, 2012

Found something interesting from Wordreference in 2006, a discussion on Maltese vs. Arabic (mutual intelligibility and similarities) with nothing too controversial: Maltese is not simply a dialect of Arabic but does strongly resemble Arabic in Tunisia, etc. etc.

On the third page (the one the link goes to) though a moderator has taken a passage from Maltese Genesis and rewritten it in Arabic (I've rearranged it to put the two closer together):

Fil-bidu Alla ħalaq is-sema u l-art:
في البدو الله خلق السما والأرط (أرض)

u kienet l-art tahwid u baħħ; u d-dlam kien fuq wicc l-abbissi u fuq wicc l-ibħra kien jittajjar l-ispirtu ta' Alla.
وكانت الأرط تهويد وبحّ والضلام (ظلام) كان فوق وتش (وجه) الأبسّي (الوهدة) وفوق وجه الأبحرة كان يتطيّر الإسبيرتو (الروح) تاالله (تاع الله) .

U qal Alla: ̋Ha jkun id-dawl.̏ U d-dawl sar.
وقال الله: ها يكون الضول (الضوء) والضول صار.

U ra Alla d-dawl li kien tajjeb. U Alla fired id-dawl mid-dlam.
   ورا الله اللي (إنه) كان طيب. والله فرد الضول مالضلام

U d-dawl Alla semmieh jum, u d-dlam sejjahlu lejl. U dalam u sebah - L-ewwel jum.
 والضول الله سماه يوم والضلام صيّحله ليل. وضلم وصبح -الأول يوم.



On a related note, here's a pdf file entitled A Comparative Study of Some Semantic Differences Between Maltese and Koranic Arabic. In spite of their similarities it looks like there is a near endless supply of false friends between the two. The Wordreference thread also had this note:

(Interesting I thought that they use the verb صيّح to "call" سمّى whereas in Arabic it's only to shout or scream .
and:
However it demonstrates that in Maltese you can often write a sentence which is mostly Arabic, or you can write one which is mostly Romance. I could re-write that paragraph from Genesis using many more Romance words if I wanted. That stylistic flexibility is very interesting in this language, and choosing from what stock you populate your sentences postures your utterance in different ways.

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Two-way Arabic and Maltese conversation

Monday, July 02, 2012

I just came across this example of an Arabic speaker visiting Malta and speaking to a woman who talks to him in Maltese, and they carry out a conversation using their respective languages. You'll notice that it is a bit halting but functions well enough when done slowly, probably about the same comprehension you'd get with a French and Italian speaker slowing down the pace and speaking as clearly as possible. What I'm uncertain of (since I don't know any Arabic besides the script) is if the woman is simply toning down her Maltese, or throwing in a few Arabic words or choosing words that she knows are Arabic cognates. In other words, are they operating from a 100% L1 base or do they have a bit of an idea of which words the other knows and does not know?

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Three things about languages

Wednesday, April 04, 2012

Three things about languages today:

--- 113 public school teachers in the Philippines will be taking Spanish courses this summer to more effectively teach the language. This is taking place at the Instituto Cervantes.

--- An article about a book featuring Esperanto translations of 200 Maltese proverbs. With 200 proverbs it's probably more of a pamphlet than a book but no samples of the proverbs are given so I can't tell.

Finally, an interview with Richard Simcott. The reason I'm embedding it is because I like his analogy of sports to language aptitude (actually language interest). I won't spoil it through paraphrasing it here though.

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Literary Arabic present in the brain of Arabic speakers as a second language, not a mother tongue

Saturday, March 06, 2010

(Thanks to Zeinelabidin Elhassi for the link)

An article here from a few months ago tells us of a study showing that literary Arabic (i.e. MSA, the Arabic used for communication between Arabic speakers of different countries) registers in the brain as a second language, not a mother tongue.

This is one of the reasons why my tentative plans are to eventually learn Maltese first before tackling Arabic, because:

-Maltese plus Persian (which I'm studying now) may make MSA fairly intelligible from the start, and
-Arabic is so fragmented anyway that students are generally expected to learn one or more regional variants in addition to MSA.

Zein also commented on that subject on Auxlang before, calling it a good idea. Perhaps next year will be a good time, and hopefully by then there will be more places to learn Maltese online.

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Random link roundup: Papiamentu, more efficient street lights, Maltese overseas, etc.

Monday, November 16, 2009

Image: the summer sky in rural Iran.

Time for another single post composed of subjects I'd been meaning to write about but not long enough on their own to fill up a single post.

Two articles here and here on the new batting coach for the New York Giants who speaks five languages, including Papiamentu (he's from Curacao).

Here's an example (written in Italian) of a free Sardinian course in Sardinia. Sardinian is well known for being the most conservative (conservative = unchanged from Latin) Romance language.

Congestion in Toronto costs Canada a total of $3.3 billion. Time spent in traffic = wasted money, pollution = worse health, etc. Toronto has far too many people still dependent on cars for a city of its size.

A small article here on teaching Maltese abroad.

An interesting study here on average intelligence among the religious vs. non-religious. Some studies seem to show a positive correlation between a lack of religion and intelligence, but it's not quite that simple - it's true for lifelong theists vs. atheists but converts are the opposite - those that have switched to atheism later on are generally less intelligent, and those that have switched to theism later on are more intelligent. Basically it has to do with: 1) conformity or a lack of it is more of a sign of intelligence, and 2) surprise surprise, switching to or from one religion/philosophy or another doesn't magically increase or decrease one's intelligence.

On a related note, Frank Schaeffer has gotten a lot of attention for an article of his here entitled Are the "New Atheists" as bad as Christian Fundamentalists? Frank Schaeffer is a man that used to be an evangelical fundamentalist but since changed his views, but instead of throwing out religion as well as some might be inclined to do he has since become Greek Orthodox. Here is an interview of his from September that received quite a bit of attention.



The interview went viral, particularly among anti-theist groups, but his now editorial is now receiving flack from them. It's tough to stake out a minority position in between two huge groups and call them both out.

Here's a page entitled Ecotel on the Moon that uses some content from a post of mine here.

Here's an interesting article on street lights. Traditional street lights are kind of like the Qwerty keyboard - they were created because it looked like the best thing to do at the time with a big bulb that sends out a kind of orangey light in all directions. Recently however, dark sky projects have resulted in street lights that only send light down (because there really is no need to light up the sky at night; nobody lives there) as well as using colours that are more in tune with human sensitivities - thus cooler colours like blue and green instead of orange and yellow. Looks better and saves a considerable amount of energy. Not sure what that note on  "it will make greener the Goth subculture" is doing in the article though. Shrug.

Finally, here's a video from a host of a show on NSMBC named Dylan Ratigan that criticizes US bank bailouts and fighting overseas, but has revealed that he really has an agenda behind this: he just wants the US to stop wasting its money on propping up banking and fighting overseas and instead start really exploring space.

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Q: Is Maltese a good stepping-stone towards learning Arabic? A: Probably not, unless you were born and raised there

Wednesday, December 17, 2008


The Cathedral of St. Paul in the city of Mdina, in Malta. It is built on the site where governor Publius was reported to have met St. Paul the Apostle following his shipwreck off the Maltese coast.

In late September I had what turned out to be a fairly silly idea about using Maltese as a stepping-stone to learning Arabic for those that otherwise found the idea of learning Arabic straight out a bit scary. Maltese, for those that don't know, is a Semitic language spoken on the country of Malta, originally from Arabic but now a language in its own right, that uses the Latin alphabet and has a ton of Italian (well actually Sicilian) vocabulary along with other European languages. It's actually a bit like English compared to other Germanic languages in that way: basic vocabulary is still quite similar to Arabic (just in the same way that words like Hand and Wasser and Hus and the rest are similar to German), but as soon as you get away from that they're really quite different.

So what makes the idea silly? Well, here are two reasons:
  • People on Malta speak English and Italian far too well to get much practice in unless you're really dedicated, and
  • The language is spoken in too small an area for a student to retain it well after they leave the country, just like how I've had almost no luck whatsoever with finding people that speak Estonian outside of Estonia after I left.
If Maltese were spoken by tens of millions of people over a large area where English wasn't an official language, then maybe it would be a good idea.

That was actually made quite clear when I brought up the subject on a forum around the same time, but I was still quite curious about whether anybody from areas like Sicily ever learned to speak Maltese and then later went on to Arabic when they realized how much of it they could understand, and coincidentally today I stumbled upon a person on YouTube that mentioned that he was from Malta (and has a blog here by the way if you want to see what Maltese looks like) and was kind enough to answer some of the questions I had. Here are some parts from his response:

Well, to tell you the truth I've never been asked this precise question before and I haven't really noticed that it does come up. I have studied Arabic and knowing Maltese did help me a lot I must say, but Maltese is not a dialect of Arabic. It's a separate language. It's got a slightly different grammar. It's simpler at times, and completely different at others. The fact that we use Latin script can even make the Semitic structure of the language a bit opaque. I would in fact suggest the other way round. If one wants to learn Maltese, one should learn some Arabic first. Just like it makes more sense learning some Latin first before venturing into Italian than the other way round.

I've never met any Italian who studied Arabic either, and they hardly ever consider learning Maltese unless they plan on living here (like my neighbour). She only managed to start speaking it after living here for more than 10 years. I don't think it helps that most Maltese people are at least trilingual in Maltese, English and Italian and can switch languages quicker than a blink of an eye.

You also seem to be under the impression that vocab-wise Maltese will be easy. Well, most seem to claim that at least 50% of Maltese vocabulary comes from Italian. That may be true to a certain extent when it comes to entries in the dictionary. However, the vocabulary that is used in every day talk contains more Semitic and a touch of Anglo-Saxon. It's only the lawyers who use many Romance words in their every-day talk and you'd sound like one if you had to do the same. Most Romance vocabulary in Maltese also tends to come from Sicilian not standard Italian.

A bit on IALs and relative difficulty of languages:

I've heard of the notion that learning a constructed language like Interlingua or Esperanto can help greatly in the learning of a foreign language. I tried learning Esperanto once but I wasn't very persistent and I gave up after a few months. I liked the idea of it being a common language for all more than the advantages it gives one in learning a foreign language, but I guess that was a time when I was being utopian. I had already studied 4 languages by then anyway.

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The main barrier for both Persian and Arabic is the script. Many think it's so hard, yet it's just a set of 28 characters (slightly more for Persian I believe) with slight alterations which one can learn in a few days. I did so in 3 days and all of a sudden I could decipher a good number of words due to their resemblance to Maltese. Arabic is at an even greater disadvantage for Westerners for not being an Indo-European language, but that's the real barrier not the script. The script is only superficial.
And finally on what the entries on the blog are about:
Most of the entries are simply poems but there is an entry where I speak of a particular event called Mnarja, which falls on the 29th of June. You can have a look at it in order to get an idea of what the Maltese language looks like.

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How to increase the number of military personnel in the U.S. that speak Arabic

Monday, September 29, 2008

Valletta, the capital of Malta. Malta speaks a language that is basically an Arabic base with a ton of Italian influence, and a lot like the Arabic spoken in Tunisia.



An idea I've had for some time now fleshed out in some more detail:

Ever since September 11th 2001 you can see every once in a while about how the military or the CIA or some other part of the government is having troubles creating fluent Arabic speakers within its ranks. The main problem here is a simple one: Arabic is hard to learn. It's easy to give up on Arabic, not because it's impossible to learn, but it can give that impression to people for the first few months before everything begins to click as eventually languages do. Here's one article from the New York Times yesterday about this:
Three years ago, the Defense Department set out to increase sharply the number of military personnel who speak strategically important languages. Progress has been slow, and the military has not determined how to reach its goal — or what exactly that goal is.

Figures from the department indicate that only 1.2 percent of the military receives a bonus paid to those who can speak languages judged to be of critical importance for the current conflicts in Afghanistan and Iraq, as well as other areas of strategic concern.

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He noted that after the Soviet Union launched Sputnik, the United States urgently worked to develop a cadre of Russian speakers and scholars. But after the Sept. 11 attacks, he said, neither the military nor other government agencies executed a similarly ambitious program for Arabic speakers.

The services have adopted a number of programs that have had some success. The Army developed a program to recruit native speakers of strategically important languages to serve as translators; so far, more than 600 have graduated.
In short, there's some progress but progress is slow. The other problem with Arabic is that it's not really one language either:


The proficiency test was extremely rigorous -- the one thing people don't understand about Arabic is that it is not one language, but rather several different mutually unintelligible dialects resting under a literary language which is completely divorced from all of them. The literary language alone takes up to ten years to fully master. To gain even a passive understanding of these dialects takes several more years of intensive study.
In addition to this, the difficulty of conducting background checks on people that have Arabic as a first language makes it harder than would be expected to find good translators:

Many of these applicants still have relatives abroad, often in countries that raise alarm among security officers. Former intelligence officials say that besides the problems of conducting thorough background checks in those countries, the agency also worries that recruits could be blackmailed if their families were vulnerable.
So what is needed then is some way to make Arabic easier to learn for those that don't have it as a first language, and at the same time it can't just be standard Arabic either, and thus should incorporate learning regional varieties at the same time, a tall order.

So here is an idea to make this process somewhat easier. One four-year Arabic language training program for the military could be devised as follows:
  • First four to six months: train the students in Interlingua for the first month or two, then spend the next months going over relevant texts about the Middle East to give the students a good background knowledge of what they are about to get into. Why Interlingua? Because the next step is to:
  • Learn Maltese. Maltese is basically Arabic plus a huge amount of Italian influence (some 52% of the vocabulary comes from Romance sources) in the same way that English is a Germanic language plus a huge amount of influence from Latin and French, and is similar to Tunisian Arabic. The students, having already learned Interlingua (Interlingua is a constructed language that is a lot like Italian without any complicated grammar) will now be familiar with most of the vocabulary that comes from Romance languages (thus almost 50%) and will have a head start in learning it. Note that it also doesn't use the Arabic alphabet so there's no problem there. They then study Maltese for six months in class and then are sent to Malta for a year of intensive training. Malta is an island and a part of the European Union, which also makes it safer and less of a culture shock (it's 98% Roman Catholic for example) for the students who will still only be starting their second year.
An example of Maltese from the Wikipedia article on the demographics of Valletta:
Demografija

Il-populazzjoni tal-Belt Valletta naqset drastikament matul is-snin, u illum il-ġurnata l-kwota naqset għal madwar terz mill-perjodu bl-aktar popolazzjoni. Dan il-proċess aċċelera aktar wara t-Tieni Gwerra Dinjija hekk kif żvilupp ġdid fis-subborgi ra lill-popolazzjoni timxi 'l barra mill-belt kapitali, però l-Belt xorta baqgħet u għadha bħala ċ-ċentru amministrattiv u kummerċjali ta' Malta.
From this paragraph alone can be recognized the words demographics, population, drastic, quota (?), mill-period (probably millennium), process, accelerate, capital, centre, administrative, commercial. Some Italian words in there too like sviluppo (development).
  • Now the students are familiar with a semitic language, and have a strong practical foundation that will enable them to understand through actual experience how regional varieties of Arabic differ from standard Arabic. Now they come back to the U.S. and learn standard Arabic, in an immersion setting like this one perhaps. The students will already know Maltese and will adapt very quickly to standard Arabic. Do this for a year or more. Then finally:
  • Give the students training in one other regional version of Arabic, depending on which area they will be expected to start working in. By this time they should already have an idea of where they could make themselves most useful, and a decision will be made in accordance with that and which region has the largest need for them. Depending on the facilities available this could be done in the U.S. or may require sending them abroad.

These four years won't be enough to make the students capable translators from the start (translators need years of cultural experience anyway and this can't be rushed), but it will accomplish two things:

1) Make the language less intimidating by gradually moving towards standard Arabic only after Interlingua and Maltese instead of starting from day one with standard Arabic, complete with a different script and grammar and culture and everything else that combines to give the student the impression that "Wow, I'm seriously never going to learn this; time to give up and think about working in another field".
2) Give the students a better background in regional varieties of the language. There are a ton of articles that explain the problem agencies have with recruiting people that know Arabic but have no familiarity with any regional varieties, and are less useful than expected when listening to recordings / translating and analyzing documents.



Finally, Persian/Farsi is not as much of a problem considering how much easier it is to learn. The only problem there is the impression that Persian is as hard as Arabic, so this fact just needs to be made more clear when thinking about trying to train more people in the language in the long term. Persian is basically a language of no great difficulty, masked in a difficult-looking exterior.

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