Showing posts with label Demian. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Demian. Show all posts

Some other Demian Hörbuch - abridged and dramatized this time

Sunday, March 15, 2015

Well, actually not just abridged. A bit more on that later.

Back in 2008 I bought the audiobook for Demian read by a single voice actor, containing the entire book unabridged. In 2011 I then wrote out the whole book bit by bit as I listened a few seconds at a time (a method I detailed here), which took three weeks at 8+ hours a day and resulted near the end in two bleeding knuckles. It was interesting to learn that the simple motion of using a pencil will do that when done too much.

And then in 2012 I created and published the interlinear translation of the book. In short, this is a book I know better than any other.

That being said, I don't do any peripheral activities with it - no reviews, no gathering with other fans of the book online or off, so I never knew about this dramatized audiobook version that apparently was recorded in 2002. The regular audiobook I have is over six hours, and this version is around two, so it is abridged in many places.



So here's a quick review. If I were to sum it up quickly it would be: for someone who really knows the book it is thoroughly entertaining. If you don't, you'll find it chaotic and difficult to follow.

This recording doesn't just abridge the book, however, it also adds some content and changes the wording from time to time (I heard a "guck mal!" once or twice).

The first part with Franz Kromer is very well done, and up to about the twenty minute mark it follows the book faithfully, and it is very absorbing. Later on in that video (and others) there are a few minutes cut out here and there, so the version that people have uploaded and are passing around is somewhat incomplete. I may buy the full version of this as well so I can hear the missing parts.

Then Demian shows up, and much of the abridging starts. Demian is played as well as one can expect, but they have done a few things that don't sit well with me. Little of what he said was abridged but the timing has been changed. For example when he talked a bit too much in the classroom and seemed to regret it, in the book it wasn't until later that he said "wir reden zu viel", but in the audiobook here he said that right away...and then it didn't even have the later part of that scene where he goes into himself (goes into a kind of trance) in the classroom, which is one of the more important parts of the book.

After that Demian is gone, just like in the book...but then they decide they are going to jam in some content from Unterm Rad in there, a much earlier book Hesse wrote about the pressures of being a gifted student. All of a sudden they're talking about classrooms named Germania and Athens, Sinclair is brought before the headmaster and seems much more timid than he was in Demian, and these few minutes they decided to shoehorn in could have been used to unabridge some of the abridged content. If it was the full book plus some others (Kinderseele for example feels like a prologue, some parts of other books of his I've thought could be fit in to expand it one wanted to) I wouldn't mind.

Back to Demian: in the book the part between Demian leaving Sinclair's town and them meeting again is very long, and in the middle Sinclair mentions that actually there was a quick meeting in the town when he was in his smoking and drinking and carousing (okay, pretending to carouse) period. The audiobook takes this and moves it to when it actually happens, which really cuts down on Demian's absence, basically turning him into a character who never went away. That makes Sinclair's lonely search for enlightenment less poignant since throughout Demian is always around the corner, and Sinclair just finds a few fun people to learn new things from. Then poof, Demian's there again and the reader never gets a sense for how alone Sinclair was for so long.

The Pistorius part was done well. Especially the parts where Pistorius is about to get into the subject of this or that ancient religion and Sinclair cuts him off is exactly how I pictured it.

Then Frau Eva shows up and hm, they've given her an old lady voice. Not a fan. The book stresses over and over again that nothing about her gives the impression of a mother of a young adult. Oh, and it cut out the part where Sinclair goes to Demian's old house, sees her picture, tries to find her but fails, another part that would have been great to keep in to stress how alone he was. Instead Sinclair just happens across Demian and he says "come meet my mother!" and suddenly Sinclair is meeting her mother, who seems just like some regular mother.

In short: don't listen unless you've read the book. And do listen if you have, because you'll still enjoy it in spite of the parts that annoy.

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Aus Martins Tagebuch: an interlinear translation

Monday, March 10, 2014

As I mentioned a few days ago, I have been working on a new interlinear translation for the past two weeks or so, and have just finished it. It is nowhere near as large a project as Demian and Kinderseele, so there was no reason to make it in paper form, or to charge for it. As a PR tool for the concept of interlinear translations, however, something this size is perfect. It is once again by Hermann Hesse and written during his Emil Sinclair period (my favourite - the other periods I find Hesse to be quite hit and miss), and I first found it after buying the book Sinclairs Notizbuch.

There is one more essay in that book that I think I will make into an interlinear translation.

Also, this time I have not gotten Olivier Simon to do the Korrekturlesen (proofreading), so I invite readers to take a close look and see if they can spot anything wrong. As a non-paper document I can easily make any corrections and quickly reload, so there was no need to confirm it as being mistake-free before uploading.

By the way, this was a great way to begin reusing the English word ereyesterday, an obsolete word that needs to become unobsolete, and fast.

Und dann viel Spaß damit!


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New interlinear translation soon: this time small, and free

Tuesday, March 04, 2014

After the translations of Demian and Kinderseele I made in 2012 and 2013, most of the remaining content from what I consider to be Hesse's most impressive period is quite short, lots of short stories and essays. None of these are large enough to make up a full book, but there are a lot of hidden gems out there that I had tentative plans to translate. The solution: do them one at a time, make them free, and use them as a kind of PR for the concept of interlinear translation itself.

About ten days ago I started a small piece from this book, and it is nearing completion. Very easy when one is translating something so small. Even when the extra lines and spacing have been added it will probably be just 12 pages, albeit full-sized ones. The original text is about 1700 words. As early as next weekend we may see it completed and online somewhere.

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Kinderseele review done

Thursday, November 21, 2013

The review of Kinderseele is now done, and I've just re-uploaded the version with the changes. The number of changes made was small enough that I was still satisfied with the previous one, but viewing a book as a paper version is different than on a computer screen, and I ended up making about 30 changes, of which maybe a third were actual changes to the wording. Some other changes were minor changes to the spacing, or a reordering of words that resulted in a more natural flow or better explanation of the original German.

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Kinderseele review almost done, Demian on sale

I'm about 20 pages away from finishing the review of my proof copy of Kinderseele, after which I'll re-upload the pdf and deem it good. So far about 25 minor changes have been made.

While I'm at it, I've also put Demian on sale until the end of the year.

More tomorrow!

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My newest book

Thursday, June 13, 2013

Nobody seems to know about this book and unlike most of Hesse's books it (as far as I know) can't be found online, so I found it through a seller of rare books on Ebay. It's pocket book-sized, hardcover, and has a few watercolour paintings inside too.





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Demian: an interlinear translation now on Scribd.com

Sunday, May 12, 2013

And it only took me nine months to get around to uploading it. The book in paper is still available here, but the online version at $8.99 is less than half as expensive as paper ($17.50) when delivery is included, and it takes but a minute to acquire. The free preview also shows more of the book than could be seen on lulu.com, so even those who don't want to / can't buy it can benefit from reading the one fifth of it that can be seen by anyone.


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Interlinear translations: a must for understanding literature

Tuesday, February 05, 2013

I stumbled across a good example (pdf) of a literary critic who really could have used an interlinear translation (this one for example is one I know quite well, because I made it) when reading Demian. The paper makes the argument that Sinclair is in hell at the end of the book, and even uses the following to reinforce it:
As striking is the main character’s name: Sinclair. It would mean nothing special in German, but we have the benefit of being able to recognize the English “sin,” and perhaps also the French “clair,” “obviously.” Put together, we have Mr. “Plainly Sin.”
"It would mean nothing special in German". Well, except for the word Sinn (meaning), found pretty much everywhere in the book.

Er sucht nur das, was Sinn und Wert für ihn hat, was er braucht, was er unbedingt haben muß. 
Was für einen Sinn hat solche Reue zwei Schritt vom Grabe weg, ich bitte dich? 
Dann zeigen sie ihren Sinn, und sie haben alle Sinn.

To imagine that Sinclair somehow has something to do with an English word is beyond stretching it.

In the notes following the paper we find the following footnote:
Hermann Hesse, Demian (N.Y.: Bantam, 1966), trans. Michael Roloff and Michael Lebeck, p. 140. All citations from “Hesse” refer to this edition.
There's another problem there. This is the edition that translated Egel (leech) as angel:
It is obvious how many of them are fish or sheep, worms or angels, how many are ants, how many are bees
(this translation has not made the same mistake, BTW)

and had a great many other oddities. Sometimes I would find a sentence and even a whole paragraph simply untranslated, other times word usage that struck me as odd. I have no problems with a less than literal translation, but some of the phrasings used didn't seem to have any place:
Sie kennen jetzt den Ruf, und wann immer Sie jemand brauchen, der das Zeichen trägt, dann rufen Sie wieder!

became:
you know the call now and whenever you need someone who bears the sign, you can appeal to me.

Why "appeal to me"? The original doesn't even specify who Sinclair is supposed to call to, nor does the word "appeal" carry the same strength and directness as rufen. The translation also makes it look like Sinclair needs to somehow use Frau Eva to call somebody (when you need someone...appeal to me).

One example of a missing sentence:
Die Türe ging auf und Frau Eva kam herein. “Da sitzet ihr beieinander! Kinder, ihr werdet doch nicht traurig sein?"

The door opened to let in Frau Eva. "You're not feeling sad, I hope."

That translation is barely acceptable as a book to read on its own, and as a tool for literary criticism it's even worse. In fact, it takes the typo I first mentioned above and runs with it:

Pistorius tells Sinclair at one point, in a seeming offhand way, that he might encounter angels at any time: 
“You wouldn’t consider all the bipeds you pass on the street human beings simply because they walk upright and carry their young in their bellies nine months! It is obvious how many of them are fish or sheep, worms or angels, how many are ants, how many are bees!” (Hesse, p. 89). 
Unless it is a knowing aside to the audience, the reference to angels here is anomalous. All the other cited beings are animal, subhuman, unflattering. So, given the two candidates Demian and Pistorius, it seems it is Pistorius who speaks in the voice of angels. Demian, interestingly, does not appear in the “Jacob Wrestling” chapter, perhaps another deliberate though subtle clue to his identity. He is not an angel. He is something very different from an angel.
That's quite the conclusion to draw from a single typo.

An interlinear translation is far superior for literary criticism for two major reasons:

1) We cannot expect every literary critic to intimately know the original language of each and every classic, but at least we can show the original and make it easy to look words up. Even without knowing German, an interlinear translation would have made it obvious that Hesse has used the word Sinn a great many times, and no, it does not mean sin.
2) Any mistakes in translation are that much more easily identified.

How literal a translation should be will depend on the goal of the translator. One geared for a student could be even more literal than mine (complete with different colours and marks for grammatical genders and cases), while one for literary criticism would probably be a bit less literal.

At the same time, I still enjoyed reading this paper. Encountering such an odd and mistaken interpretation of the book is still something new.

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